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Commentary:

Reply       Seven Rain, November 5th, 2014, 6:08 pm

Ixal, didn't your mother ever teach you not to put young ladies into painful ambiguous submission holds?

Reply       Seven Rain, November 8th, 2014, 6:16 pm

Heh... Whoops. Dunno if that was due to the server shenanigans or if I simply slipped up and named this "Passion 12" but it's fixed now.

Discussion:

Reply       JoKeR, November 5th, 2014, 8:03 pm

It depends on what kind of submission holds ...right?
*hint-hint* (=__^)

Reply       Seven Rain, November 5th, 2014, 8:24 pm

@JoKeRcologne: Funny story, drawing that panel was a tad uncomfortable due to the thought of "I'm sure this will end up looking quite suggestive to some readers..." in the back of my mind, though amusing at the same time knowing that Ixal has the utmost disgust for the way humans look.

Reply       JoKeR, November 5th, 2014, 8:56 pm

@Seven Rain:
I wouldn't burden myself with such feelings... If someone reads something naughty in it, it's not your fault that this person has a dirty mind.

I showed once a friend of mine the printed version of Katran... the only thing She noticed was that I seem to like to draw Butt-shots.
I was puzzled by this statement. And then she showed me all the "Butts-hots"...

I facepalmed so hard I got headache that day.
It wasn't me drawing Butt-shots, it was her being focused on butts.

Reply       Seven Rain, November 5th, 2014, 9:10 pm

@JoKeRcologne: Well let's be fair here; who doesn't love to focus on butts?

Reply       JoKeR, November 5th, 2014, 10:29 pm

@Seven Rain: Hahahaha ...yeah, you're right.

Reply       The_Hankerchief, November 8th, 2014, 6:38 am

@Seven Rain: See, now if I were in her shoes, and I've done this before, I'd lean forward, then throw my head back as hard as I could and reverse-headbutt the shit out of him. They say nobody wins with a headbutt, but I say otherwise. Any which way you can, you know?

(It should be noted that this usually only works for lanky people in the neighborhood of six feet tall. Bigger people (I don't necessarily mean fat, just heavier set people in general) require more momentum to do the same move, and by the time they swing back, the person administering the hold has already countered. Shorter folks would have to hop or jump at the same time for their head to contact their assailants' (assuming that the assailant is of average height), and taller folks would just press their backs into the assailant's face. Not optimal.

The key is to aim for their nose. people who are short enough to require a jump might also be able to hit under the chin. At the minimum, done right, both of you will be momentarily stunned, which might buy you some time; the best case scenario is where he gets stunned enough to let go and maybe stumble back a bit.)

Anyway, back to the fun. Kick his ass, Sea Bass!

Reply       Seven Rain, November 8th, 2014, 1:32 pm

@The_Hankerchief: Actually that thought ran through my head, funnily enough, but I didn't go with it because I wanted to drive home Reina's inexperience. She watches sparring matches but she still lacks some major fighting instincts this early on, and doesn't have the quick-thinking to figure out a way to fight back in this position, especially with the distracting commotion that arises when others start to arrive in the corridor.
(Basically keep in mind that despite a love of watching fights, she's still a rather pampered individual, and wouldn't think to use her head as a weapon so readily.)

Keen thing to point out, though. I like avoiding sensible/practical holes in combat and plot, so pointing out stuff like that is helpful, even if you're not sure what happens in future pages or if it's crossed my mind!



(And sorry for the edits made to this comment. I can't remember correctly but I think SJ sends out a new notification every time I edit it, if it still does that, my bad...)

Reply       The_Hankerchief, November 8th, 2014, 9:27 pm

@Seven Rain: No, that's actually a valid answer. You raise a good point about people who aren't experienced in fighting. I've been in a few in my lifetime, mostly friendly sparring matches, but one or two of them were actual brawls. When fighting, any doofus can throw a punch, the key is to be able to react to how your opponent moves; sort of like chess, in a way. Whoever can figure out their opponent first and counter usually wins, which is usually the reason why kidnappers usually win against the victim they're taking. Victims usually don't know what's happening at first, all they see is some random dude attacking them, and when faced with unknown threats, people get panicky, which affects their judgment. In comparison, the kidnapper knows full well what he's doing and how his victims will usually respond, and by the time they figure it out, its too late.

It makes sense that Reina doesn't know much about fighting specifically, but she's already got a leg up on your average kidnap victim.

Reply       Seven Rain, November 8th, 2014, 9:32 pm

@The_Hankerchief: Ha, glad to hear it. I don't have any experience myself and I've done little more than observe MMA fights, (albeit a lot of them,) and watch animu/cartoons so I always worry if things are straying further from the realm of over-the-top/super-powered and too far into the realm of "this makes no fucking sense."


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