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Reply       sentiashinou, June 9th, 2017, 8:48 pm

Can I ask a process question? Feel free to ignore me if it's a secret.

How much in advance do you write dialogue? If you do script ahead, how close do you stick to your original lines when you actually get the words on the page?

Reply       Seven Rain, June 9th, 2017, 9:22 pm

@sentiashinou: No worries, there's nothing I do that I feel the need to keep hidden from anyone, haha.

It honestly kinda varies, and my methods have changed a lot over time, but generally I try to write out an entire "scene" or major section of the story before putting it into comic form.
Depending on my mood I might write a lot more at a time, I just really have fun writing so I'll sometimes get caught up doing a lot of it.
Otherwise I just try to write out complete scenes in one go. Though I have tons of future scenes and partial scenes written out that I chip away at and edit over time while I'm working on other stuff.

In fact the Crisis finale has been written out for a couple years now, but has been constantly changing when I go back to it, like "Oh, this line sounds a lot dumber than when I first wrote it," or "I should have this revealed here instead of here" and stuff.

I guess I'd say the more you can write in advance the better, but I stick with the scene minimum because it makes it easier to know where that particular scene will end and how the dialogue will lead there.

(Sorry if this comment comes out like a mess, by the way. I don't often try to put my process into words so it's not something I've had a lot of practice with.)

As for how much changed, I touched on that above, but it depends a lot. Some scenes and dialogue get changed just because I've had them written out for a while and I've thought of ways to improve it before reaching that point.

When I take a scene and start doing page layouts, (like setting up the panels and speech-bubbles and stuff,) the dialogue will sometimes change from that point because it lets me see just how it'll look and flow in comic form.

Sometimes I'll shorten unnecessarily long dialogue to not make the page a pain to read, sometimes the order in which characters say stuff changes, etc.
Putting the pages together and seeing how it'll look as a semi-finished product helps give a better idea of how/when/what people should say stuff.

I hope that was helpful and not just a rambling incoherent mess!

Reply       sentiashinou, June 10th, 2017, 8:22 pm

@Seven Rain: Whoa, thank you for such an in-depth response!

Lol, I can't say I relate with having so much fun writing that I accidentally get ahead... I have tons of notes about "what's going to happen", what order scenes happen in, choreography of where people are within scenes, etc. But actually figuring out the wording is always like pulling teeth :/ I've been trying to write out more concrete scripts lately, but my success rate for actually using those pre-written lines is roughly... 0%. Hahaha.

You've given me something to think about though--I wonder if I can make the writing part more fun for myself, and then I won't have as much trouble practicing and getting better?

Reply       Seven Rain, June 11th, 2017, 1:32 am

@sentiashinou: I dunno why I've always had so much more fun writing, honestly. I just feel like I never run out of more ideas for characters/dialogue/interactions/lore/stories.

On the other hand the drawing part takes a lot more work and motivation. It doesn't come as naturally to me as ideas and writing.

I hope you find a way to make the writing more fun for you, though! I'll be happy thinking that I was of any help, however little.

Reply       JoKeR, June 11th, 2017, 5:45 pm

@Seven Rain: "I'll be happy thinking that I was of any help, however little."
Don't sell yourself short.

Reply       Seven Rain, June 12th, 2017, 12:03 am

@JoKeR: I try not to, but I try not to be arrogant, too. Always awkwardly working towards that middle-ground.

Reply       JoKeR, June 12th, 2017, 9:27 am

@Seven Rain:
"I'm happy that I was of any help."
Fixed it.
It's not arrogant but with more self-esteem. (^__-)

Reply       Seven Rain, June 12th, 2017, 1:17 pm

@JoKeR: Aha, alright, alright. Message received.


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