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Reply       Seven Rain, January 2nd, 2018, 4:49 pm

Monica isn't one to mince words, even with royalty. She's sorta meant to contrast the other female figures in Reina's life like friends and servants.


Reply       TheJGamer, January 2nd, 2018, 7:16 pm

Love truly must be the strongest force in the world

Reply       Captain Ghost, January 2nd, 2018, 7:31 pm

lol whoops, I thought -for sure- I'd added this to my faves??? and then I saw it in the 'just updated' section on SJ's front page, without a 'new' notifier underneath it and was like ???

Anyway, fixed! haha.

Monica has a good point here. A lot of good points, actually.

Reply       sentiashinou, January 2nd, 2018, 8:39 pm

On the other hand she provides no contrast at all to the other people in this scene...


(It's like I'm on some mission to draw every female character from this comic, lolol)

Reply       JoKeR, January 2nd, 2018, 9:01 pm

@sentiashinou: Nice!!

Reply       Seven Rain, January 2nd, 2018, 9:14 pm

@TheJGamer: But of course!

@Captain Ghost: Monica tries to be the voice of harsh reason among the aloof knights and royalty.

Reply       Seven Rain, January 2nd, 2018, 9:14 pm

@sentiashinou: I love you for that. I'm sure you'll also be quite fond of Iza when she gets introduced later in the chapter.

Reply       Redjive, January 9th, 2018, 8:39 am

@sentiashinou: You make my lack of drawing skill painfully obvious. *shot through the heart plays in the background*

Reply       Redjive, January 9th, 2018, 8:53 am

These past few episodes have just been Survivors_Guilt.JPG
It's amazing how when you're the one who gets out unscathed, you always feel like it's you're fault that the ones who optionally risked injury and death to help you got hurt. You should've done something more to help them right?

Reply       Seven Rain, January 9th, 2018, 10:56 am

@Redjive: Ha, I was wondering if anyone would point that out. It does seem like Ixis's condition kinda stole Reina's kidnapping thunder, but I couldn't find a decent way to work it into the pages without it feeling awkward amidst concern with Ixis's severe condition.

Try not to think of it as survivor's guilt, though. I'm not trying to downplay Reina's kidnapping, the primary reason for these past couple pages is to add a bit more meat and bones to the couples' relationship. I mean I don't want to try and make readers take a cutesy /ss/ romance TOO seriously, but I don't want it to feel like 100% shallow fanservice, either.

(And spoiler alert: Not everyone is more concerned with Ixis than Reina right now, and I think that'll have a bit more of an effect in contrast to others glossing over it anyway.)

Reply       sentiashinou, January 9th, 2018, 1:53 pm

@Redjive: ;) Get a couple decades of practice under your belt and you'll have no problems surpassing me.

Reply       Redjive, January 24th, 2018, 9:35 am

@Seven Rain: Oops, didn't mean for it to be a complaint *facepalms self* I actually like what you're doing here. I mentioned survivor's guilt because of a few books I recently read where survivor's guilt is a big part of the plot, so it was at the front of my mind when I saw the episode. I think it does actually tie things in and wrap up loose ends pretty well: Ixis is out of commission for now, and everyone (characters and readers) have lots of questions about what's happening, so what better time for a lore dump/character development/background info surge? *pause* *inhales in British* Anyways, don't worry in the future if I post a comment that sounds like a complaint or anything like that in the future: I make an effort to not complain to author's I like, except about irrelevant things and even then I make sure they know that I'm complaining.
Fellow commentators, on the other hand... *war flashback to some less polite comment sections*

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Reply       Redjive, January 24th, 2018, 9:37 am

@sentiashinou: I'd take an art class at school but I've always had bad luck with such things; Maths is hard enough as it is.
Gonna have to get it done before I'm 25 though, which means I'll have plenty of time *note: Harder to learn new things after you're 25, proven fact*
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Reply       Seven Rain, January 24th, 2018, 12:15 pm

@Redjive: Ahaha it's alright, even if it wasn't meant to be a complaint I felt it was valid criticism nonetheless.

Don't ever be afraid to complain or criticize. I can be thin-skinned sometimes but I like hearing about things that I can improve, especially stuff I might not have noticed myself.

Reply       Seven Rain, January 24th, 2018, 12:19 pm

@Redjive: Ugh, proven fact or not I can attest to it. I tried learning Game Maker programming a few years back and had to give up with a deep, sorrowful sigh.

Then again I've always been a bit slow at learning certain things. So much of what I know now I wish I had learned or taken seriously five years sooner.

Reply       sentiashinou, January 24th, 2018, 12:46 pm

@Redjive (and @Seven Rain ): I dunno about you guys but I feel like I'm still learning new stuff all the time, and I'm not 25 anymore. :P I don't think it makes sense to be discouraged because an arbitrary "deadline" has passed, or to get complacent because that deadline seems far away. But maybe that's just me.

Also we must be opposites because I love math, hahaha.

Reply       Seven Rain, January 24th, 2018, 1:43 pm

@sentiashinou: Sorry, I was just making joking conversation and musing about how often I wish I tried to do and learn things sooner, haha. I'm not that much of a defeatist.

Hell, on top of always trying to improve my comics, I've been looking more and more into learning to write novels and stuff lately, and have been reading stuff to try and get a taste for it after not reading actual books since like, highschool age.
(I'm also still trying to improve at fighting games and stuff, though that's a lower priority than my art and writing.)

Reply       sentiashinou, January 24th, 2018, 6:12 pm

@Seven Rain: !! Are you me?? I've been reading some novels recently too after a decade+ long hiatus. I'd ask what you're reading but my taste is a bit narrow at the moment so it might not overlap much with yours.

(Also I'm sorry to clutter up this random page with totally unrelated comments but y'all keep saying stuff I want to respond to!)

Reply       Seven Rain, January 24th, 2018, 8:11 pm

@sentiashinou: Don't ever feel bad about unrelated comments and discussion, it always puts a smile on my face getting a chance to talk with you guys, haha.

I have an obvious slant towards fantasy and sci-fi but you might be surprised. My tastes are a bit more broad than WOE might make them seem.

I've been reading The Stand by Stephen King and a friend of mine has sold me on The New Jedi Order, so I want to start that when I'm done with The Stand.
I also want to get into Discworld and The Horus Heresy sometime, and my favorite back in the day was Redwall, particularly the Martin trilogy.

I was also a fan of the first few Harry Potter books but I started losing interest after a while. If I ever read those again I'll probably stick to the first three. They're the most nostalgic, and the ones I remember having the most fun reading.

Even if you don't think our tastes would overlap I wouldn't mind hearing about what kind of books you enjoy! Since I want to try writing non-comic stuff myself someday, (not to replace EthereaVerse comics but to supplement them,) I've been trying to jot down lists of as many different series I want to try as possible!

Reply       sentiashinou, January 24th, 2018, 9:05 pm

@Seven Rain: Welll I've been reading pretty much exclusively hard sci fi lately. When I was in high school, two of my favorite authors were Isaac Asimov and Stephen Baxter, but paradoxically one of Baxter's books was the one that was so boring I pretty much immediately stopped reading altogether after reading it.... 8D;; I'm giving him another chance now though. I'm almost done with Proxima and it's super good. He's also co-written some books (my favorite is The Light of Other Days with Arthur C. Clarke), including a series with Terry Pratchett that's high on my list... If I end up liking them I'll probably end up reading some Discworld too, eventually.

My favorite series recently is Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds (jeez I'm probably misspelling every author's name, I'm sorry if you try to google any of them and have trouble finding them) ... I'm sort of saving the last book in the trilogy because I don't want to run out of stories I'm excited about, you know?

Part of me wants to get more into fantasy stuff (I also loved Redwall when I was little) but I have a hard time reading fantasy without any visuals, so I tend to stick to comics for that. But I'm sure I can be convinced to try some if you have any recommendations.

Reply       Seven Rain, January 24th, 2018, 10:05 pm

@sentiashinou: It's interesting that you listed a bunch of sci-fi stuff! Does that mean you weren't expecting sci-fi to overlap with my tastes? If that's the case it'll be cool to see what you think of the Blackjack remake when I finally get around to that, (after the WOE chapter following Verge, at the latest.)
In fact I'm glad you listed those because reading some sci-fi stuff might help me fine-tune some aspects of the story in said remake. I'll add those to my list and keep an eye out for them next time I'm at HPB.

As for recommendations I'm afraid I don't have much. I love fantasy but when it comes to novels Harry Potter and Redwall were really the only fantasy books I used to read. (Other than that it was all comics/manga and novels I read for school, some I liked and some I didn't.)

If you were interested in revisiting Redwall I'd recommend the Martin trilogy if you haven't already read those, I suppose. Martin the Warrior, Mossflower, and The Legend of Luke. (I also read the original Redwall and Mattimeo, which were fun, but I was always partial to Martin.)

Reply       NotRedjive (Guest), January 31st, 2018, 4:41 pm

@Seven Rain: Who could this possibly be ;) logging on when I don't have time to sign in properly.

Don't we all though? I'm not anywhere near completing college yet and I still have so many things I wish I had learned earlier. RIP my programming dream, that's never gonna happen. Don't have the patience for that either, but I still take like one Java class so I can at least put that on my resume. As for @sentiashinou At the ripe young age of #NotEven21Yet I think (from things many people in their 30s are telling me, so I hopefully (hah, yeah right) won't make the same mistakes) I think it's a bit of a psychological thing. People start getting married around 25, and settle down etc. and so they do less new things, and with that comes a decrease in the ability to learn that people don't really recover

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