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Reply       Seven Rain, April 3rd, 2018, 2:52 pm

I hope my attempts at a "sunny morning" effect aren't too overbearing. I rather like how the light coming in through the windows turned out, at least.


Reply       TheJGamer, April 3rd, 2018, 6:48 pm

Think Ixis is more excited about Reina being able to come with him than getting treatment at this point, heh.

Reply       Seven Rain, April 3rd, 2018, 8:27 pm

@TheJGamer: But of course!

Reply       sentiashinou, April 3rd, 2018, 8:31 pm

Random question: Are all Breakers male?

Reply       Seven Rain, April 3rd, 2018, 8:54 pm

@sentiashinou: Damn, that's a good question. It's one I've silently debated with myself over the years.

Since being born a Breaker is a totally random mutation it stands to reason that it could affect both genders. That said, I've never had plans of writing female Breakers.
The primary reason I created the Breakers to begin with was to make the antagonistic Ethereans in the story like Ixal and the Legions more intimidating, (with larger, more muscular frames and sharper faces.)

That and the fact that they're already unique to Chrona makes part of me wants to say yes, they're all males. Just to make them that much "rarer".

Do you have an opinion on which would be more interesting? Are you asking out of curiosity or was there more to it that you wanted to know?

Reply       sentiashinou, April 3rd, 2018, 9:16 pm

@Seven Rain: (This is one of those times I think it'd be fun to have a real-time conversation, hahaha. You wouldn't be interested in adding me on Skype or Discord, would you?)

It was more out of curiosity than anything. I was trying to imagine what a female Breaker might be like, so from that perspective, "they don't exist" isn't that interesting an answer, although maybe it's the most sensible one in the context of the story.

On the other hand, it could just be that no female Breakers appear in WOE, and there could be some other explanation for it. E.g. it's just a lot rarer than in men so we don't happen to encounter one. Or perhaps the physical differences are invisible/subtle enough that you just can't tell she's a Breaker unless she tells you?

I guess, if you didn't already have a definitive answer, maybe it's just not relevant to the plot of WOE and you gotta save this for a side story. ;D

Reply       Seven Rain, April 3rd, 2018, 10:12 pm

@sentiashinou: I actually did get a Discord recently, I can add you on that, (I'll shoot you an SJ PM with my ID thing in a bit.)

As for what a female Breaker would be like, they'd simply be similar to female humans!
If you think back to the discussion with Fathom; The reason Breakers resemble humans is that Breakers' ears don't draw in nearly as much Mana as other Ethereans. This leads their bodies to grow larger and age more.

In other words a female Breaker would simply be an Etherean that resembles a female human. They'd be a bit stockier, and they would age more like humans, (as opposed to the typical Etherean, such as the Elder from Chapter 3, who looks like this under her mask despite being in the 90-100 age range; https://i.imgur.com/e55JMCx.png)
(As an added note; I've been thinking of adding longer lifespans to the Ethereans' genetic repertoire. It would be fitting with the idea of Mana slowing/stunting the aging process, and liken them more to the classic elf races they share traits with. They wouldn't be Draconian-levels of old, but maybe 2-3x the average human lifespan.
Food for thought.)

Since Ethereans are inherently feminine regardless of gender it stands to reason that a female Breaker would stand out less than a male.

For now though it definitely wouldn't hurt to leave it up to imagination, but if anyone needs a definitive answer I'd go with the side of logic and say there are bound to be female Breakers, though they would definitely be harder to spot until they're older.

Reply       Redjive, April 5th, 2018, 10:55 am

@Seven Rain: I cannot tell you how sad I am that I missed this discussion because I was too busy reading The All Guardsmen Party (it's hilarious even if you don't know what WH40k is like)
It is an interesting thought though. (that is to say, the idea of a female breaker and whether it matter to the plot of WOE)

As a side note Ixis looks high on painkillers with his droopy eyelids. Probably just tired.

Reply       Seven Rain, April 5th, 2018, 12:21 pm

@Redjive: Maybe a bit of both, haha.

As for the discussion; After chatting with Sentia a bit on Discord I came to the decision that female Breakers are totally a thing, though. If nothing else it would at least make old lady Ethereans a thing, and that'll be fun to draw.

(EDIT: And me and a friend have actually been trying to get into the WH40K tabletop game lately, actually. Being broke motherfuckers means collecting the armies and paints and stuff will be a really slow burn but still.)

Reply       Redjive, April 6th, 2018, 10:17 am

@Seven Rain: I quickly gave up on playing 40k tabletop proper, upon noticing that I small sized DKK army costs well over $300. F*ck. That. Sh*t. I have instead moved to the RP games (Dark Heresy, Only War, Kill Team, etc.). And yes, in the name of equality and such (and because there is no particular reason not to) female breakers are definitely a thing. (depending on which army you are trying to run, most people let beginners, and especially Imperial Guard beginners, use the 'Counts As' rule, for example use a Sherman or Panzer IV/V model from another game for the Leman Russ,since it's generally cheaper. I've got no tips for painting though, I quit long before I got that far)

Reply       Redjive, April 6th, 2018, 10:32 am

@Seven Rain: Allow me to summarize the Imperial Guard and then the Death Korps of Krieg (for obvious reasons, the IG and DKK) with 4 pictures:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqbEKZGGZSVErtxmMqwJyCk9rvG-plCn 9_jzGsZriEvOOl72Xx (copy paste this one)


and for the DKK:
(this next one kinda works for both)

The DKK is basically the siege specialists, they WANT to die (but die for the EMPRAH), they're really tough, and they're world is literally a WW1 trench line writ large, and nuked because the last loyalist regiment during a rebellion determined that if the EMPRAH couldn't have Krieg, neither could anyone else.

Reply       Seven Rain, April 6th, 2018, 2:09 pm

@Redjive: Yeah man it's brutal. The painting has been the biggest struggle for me so far, though, ahaha. I can stomach spending money on the armies in increments over a few years if need be, but I've been testing out painting on some not-expensive miniatures and damn I'm awful at it.

Reply       Seven Rain, April 6th, 2018, 2:10 pm

@Redjive: That's excellent stuff, haha. Personally I'm most interested in the Adeptus Mechanicus, but painting those seems like a nightmare so I'm sticking with good ol' fashion Marines for now. Going with Blood Angels to start with but I'd love to get into Grey Knights someday.

Reply       Redjive, April 8th, 2018, 3:40 pm

@Seven Rain: You loved the Blood Vampires too! wheeeeeee (my friend who introduced me to the game ran a BA army and gave me his Codex so I could get started). Yeah the painting is what well and truly killed me. I was considering dropping £295 for the Krieg Platoon and then I realized that I would have to paint it... which would cost even more moeny, and also be damn near impossible due to the level of detail you need to get for IG. For Marines it's a little easier, since they're bigger. BTW, your first heavy vic for the Blood Angels should be a Stormraven with the door mounted Hurricane Bolters and with one of the antiarmor replacements (multimelta for the nose gun or twin-linked plasma guns for the turret) because... well... that's a lotta damage! that you can output. And your opponent will either have to brind dedicated AA, or you can use it as a distraction to bring the rest of your troops up while he wastes turns having his infantry try and kill the Stormraven.

Reply       Seven Rain, April 8th, 2018, 4:23 pm

@Redjive: I'll make a note of that! I still don't know if I'll get hardcore into it enough to play with people other than friends but it's a good endgoal to think about playing people at hobby stores and stuff.

Reply       Redjive, April 9th, 2018, 9:30 am

@Seven Rain: Yeah. It's a bit of a pain finding people to play Dark Heresy or *insert Pathfinder/D&D equivalent here* with, but at game club, if we aren't playing Deception, we try and continue our Pathfinder game at least once every other week. Sadly, neither the original DM nor I (since the original always has something going on now) really planned the campaign in advance.

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